Myth, Magic, Medicine, and everything in between - two doctors talking. Hi, welcome again to Myth, Magic, Medicine with me, Denise Billen-Mejia and my guest today is Tatiana Resnick, who is now working as a hospitalist, but has quite a different background. So welcome Tatiana. Tell us all about yourself, please.
Thank you so much thing is I'm so excited to be here this year, and I'm so grateful that you invited me.
So first of all, where's that lovely accent from?
I'm originally from Uzbekistanan It's a part of the former Soviet Union, but now it's independent country. Okay. Did you come after the fall of the Union? Or before? Oh, yes. I came in 2001.
Okay, it had been a done deal for a while. Okay. And you came straight to California? Yes, yes. I came to California.
And I had been almost entire time in California except three years of residency in Nevada. I went to University of Nevada Reno.
Not too far. So you are you in upstate California or down.
Yeah, I'm here in Chico, Chico California, in the north of California, north of Sacramento a couple of hours.
All right. So what what do you spend most of your time doing you are a hospitalist, which most people are pretty familiar with if we're in the US. We do however, have some people from the UK and other places. So very briefly, would you like to explain the difference between a hospitalist and a regular , you're internal medicine trained originally?
Yes, yeah,internal medicine trained I'm doing a lot of things actually. My main is my full time job as Internal Medicine hospitalist, here in California, and I'm also Lifestyle Medicine Board Certified.
But in addition to this, I'm also owner of Life Coaching business, and I coach women physicians,
Only physicians, you don't coach the general public?
I have some clients who are non physicians, and I have some men in my coaching but majority of them I would say like 85% are women physicians, but open to other people as well. Depends like, on one to one basis,
Do you find that your training in coaching informs the way you treat your patients when they're being your patients and not your clients as a coach? Has it changed the way you practice medicine?
Yes, it definitely does. It helped me to be aware of communication with patients that understanding their view and at helping them to understand themselves. It definitely helped me in helping people to make positive changes in their lifestyle, especially people who started with difficult habits.
Did you do the lifestyle training first and then coaching or the other way around? Or both together?
No. Other way round. What happened, well my entire life really I was interested in how humans interact and, I read so many self development books and psychology books. Psychology was just kind of hobby interesting for me to learn. And over the years I noticed that people frequently tell me something like "Oh, thank you for guiding the service." "Oh, thank you for you told me to do this. And now my life is so much better." And that was happening over and over and over again. But I never called it by the word COACH, I just thought it is like part of what you do. But the common element in all of those areas was that people frequently commented that I help them to change their life for the better by making some simple, relatively not very time-consuming but important changes in the way how they think and how they act. So eventually I discovered coaching and became certified.
Yeah, and most people know those steps. They just don't bring them, they're not front of mind and coaching helps in bringing bring the front of mind that's good.
Yes, exactly, Some times it's so helpful to help people to understand themselves to understand how they think, how their thoughts, and their feelings affect their actions and their current circumstances and how they can change the situation. By initially changing the way they think and how they feel.
I've actually I'm on both the first and second, this is the second season, the first season also, quite a few people that I spoke to, although we often talked about different things, many, many of them have taken the training to be Life Coaches. Why do you think it calls to doctors so much? Why do you think it attracts them so much? Because it's very similar to what we're doing medicine. When it's patients, it's not just prescribing medication or doing surgery, it is also human interaction. And this human interaction part, in being able to help patients to help clients, it's kind of similar, it's the same element of speaking and helping. And it's really appeals to physicians, I think,
Hmm with the plus that they actually know medicine, which is nice.
It's also a huge needs, especially in physicians, but in everyone, there areso many people currently, I read statistics, I believe something about 50-60%, of physicians currently suffering from burnout, and there is a huge need for some help.
The other thing that struck me, before we taped this, I didn't read the article, because I didn't have time but you know, too long to read but something about loneliness that it has reached epidemic proportions, I think worsened by COVID. But certainly it's been around for a long time, particularly for older people. But I'll have to go back and read the article and see if it also is now being recognized in younger people. But I can't imagine that it was helped in any way by COVID. Because it isolated people for so long. The people I tend to work with are older women, for the most part. A lot of the concern they have is trying to be social, and they'll go out with their one friend for coffee. But most of the time they're staying home much less than they would have done at that age 10 years ago. The society has changed.
Oh, yes, yes. Especially now after Covid pandemic, so many people . And it is also really impressive how sometimes very simple changes. Just simple understanding of your own thought pattern.makes such a profound for yourself.
Yeah, I tell all my clients, you make a tiny step and you keep that tiny step and you add another tiny step. Yeah. Just additive. Yes. No, do you find that you always remember to practice those things yourself?
But they try to Yeah, okay to practice in medicine full time, and I still plan to continue to but as a hospitalist my block, my work is some blocks. So I've work several days, and I'm off several days. So I have quite a bit of free time in between of my work blocks for other activities. And I plan, currently I work with my clients one to one. So it's very customized, very unique approach for each person. But eventually, I plan to add a course, I am working on developing a course . And I plan to add group sessions. So several things got into coaching and will be available soon.
So that's that's the weeks that you're working, you're just at the hospital and you don't do any coaching except somebody calls you with a problem. And, and then the other weeks, you don't have to think about the hospital, which is a nice thing that hospitalists get to do that most general practitioners don't. But that's good. That works for you.
Yep. And they mostly work like five, five days blocks most of my blocks, f
Five on five off.Okay, I thought seven-seven was the standard, I think 24 hour days, or 12 hour days or No, no, it's 12 hours. Okay. So you need four hospitalists for one position really
We are a large group so duraction of blocks varies it's not always five and five but it's an average so I still have quite a bit of free time in between. And I also do podcast in my free time. And podcast is a lot of fun.
you only only
I try to do my best.
Yes. Yes. Do you batch your work as podcaster you collect your work and then you create it and then you put it out there?
Yes, exactly. I have seen some sort of, and I quote and said, she isn't very nice. So for example, when I had 10 days or 14 days off, I would schedule a lot of interviews during those days, and have everything prepared and sell, suicides the next several months, so you need some answers. I interview women physicians who are experts, innovators, or leaders in various fields in and outside of medicine. And on my podcast, set up the parents essentially inspiring in Detroit News, NC also teach practical tips from say areas of expertise. So it's not just for inspiration, but people can learn specific practical ideas and strategists and so many fields.
The requirements is that the person you're speaking to is a woman physician. Yes. Yes. Medicine. So specific. Mine is just off position, but for the most part is women.
I feel since women physicians offices, opportunity to have certain voices elevated and amplified.
Yes, yes. It's nice to be able to work together. Yes, thanks. Yes. Excellent. All right. Well, this is going to be rather a short episode, I think, because both of us have busy schedules. But what what else would you particularly what would you particularly like to say to the world? What one thing whether their physician or not? What do you think is the most important thing that
I think, I believe sets it out options and search for those options? And always ask what else? Because sometimes it's my seems like station where you are, you might feel like you're stuck and Serrano, any better way. But always believe just believe this idea that better way exists, it just 72 pound validators. And when you power this this approach, in Thai searching, there are so many books you can follow and in your dissertation may change for much, much, much better when you just believe.
Thank you. What is the name of your podcast? You said it's voices of women physicians.
Yes, it's actual name. And they also have a Facebook group is the same name. And I invite all of women physicians to try this for community support, and some fun.
All right. And when you eventually launch your courses, you will market those also through Facebook, or when you have a separate website.
I have a website, it called trifle success. living.com. Excited I invite everybody to contact me Services website, or through my email trayful success leaving it gmail.com
I'll put all that in the show notes. Don't worry.
Yes, yeah. And I also wanted to mention that I am participating as one of quarters in writing a book about lifestyle medicine. Launched in sometimes the summer, it called co healers heal. And it's this amazing book, it is shorter, three physicians contribute some stories about lifestyle medicine, how to change certain life and how to change the lives of certain patients. It is very inspiring gets a lot of very helpful information. And I would like to invite all the listeners to get this book it will be written and audio vos.
Oh, very good. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you very
much. It was my pleasure. Thank you. I really appreciate
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